Episode 11
11. From Hiding to Being Seen: My Journey Through Voice, Creativity, and Podcasting
In this deeply personal episode I share my journey with voice, creativity, and the long road from hiding to being seen. From the silence of bullying, eating disorders, and body shame, to the healing pathways of spirituality, podcasting, and creativity, this is the story of how I slowly reawakened my voice and stepped into visibility.
I take you through the beginnings of my podcasting journey, the birth of Life in Contradiction and Body Diaries, and how holding space for stories became a catalyst for my own healing. Along the way, I reflect on creativity as a force that never truly leaves us, even when buried under fear and conditioning. And how each brave step we take opens the door to even greater expansion.
If you’ve been waiting for a sign to begin - whether it’s podcasting, writing, painting, or sharing your story - this is it.
Topics Covered
- Healing voice and visibility wounds through creativity and podcasting
- Moving from fear, hiding, and eating disorders into self-expression
- Creativity as a path of becoming, healing, and stepping into being seen
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I'm Andrea Lee Matthies, writer, photographer,
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:and Clairvoyant Medium, and this
is the Bold, Brave Woman Project.
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:This podcast is a living, breathing,
unfolding of what it really
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:means to step into our becoming.
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:Born from the ashes of a failed YouTube
channel, this weekly podcast brings you
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:real unfiltered moments of failure, of
bravery, and of deep intuitive knowing,
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:so that you too can step into who you are
becoming with even more trust and bravery.
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:Let's dive in.
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:Welcome back to another episode
of the Bold, brave Woman Project.
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:Today.
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:I thought I would share with you my
podcasting journey because when I
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:was reflecting on it the other day,
I could see how when I first started
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:out with my podcasting, it was
actually coming from a really strong
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:desire to do something meaningful.
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:Driven heavily by fear.
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:Now, first I wanna take you back, so
I'm gonna take you back to my childhood
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:to paint a bit of a picture as to what
my journey with my voice has been like,
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:as well as my relationship with being
seen and being heard, and being in my
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:authority through to now through to this
podcast and some of the learnings and
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:the lessons that I've had along the way.
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:So when I think, right back, and I had
a chat with my mom recently just to get
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:a bit of insight from her perspective
of what I was like when I was younger.
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:Apparently when I was really
small, I was quite vivacious.
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:I was quite creative and quite chatty.
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:I would stroll up to strangers
and strike up conversations.
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:I was unencumbered and free.
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:But as I grew up and things in societal
conditioning, like stranger danger,
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:you know, parents were encouraged back
then, and I know they are now, to teach
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:children, not to speak to strangers,
to fear strangers, to fear, all the
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:things that do occur in our society.
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:This conditioning started to filter
down into me, and my mom said
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:there was a dramatic shift between.
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:Walking up and chatting fearlessly
to strangers to becoming quite
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:reserved and becoming quite fearful.
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:And as I moved through puberty and
social expectation and trying to
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:fit in, particularly at primary
school, self-esteem and body issues
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:became quite a big thing for me
that I started to hide even more.
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:I started to pull back.
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:A girlfriend of mine and I, we used
to love creating these little dances
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:and performances with costumes and we
would knock on the, the doors of other
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:classrooms in the school and we'd ask to
put on little performance for the class.
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:And when we were quite
small, this was great fun
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:And we loved it.
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:But as we got older and bullying
started to come into play, judgment
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:The kids just making fun of us.
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:as I kind of moved into the, that
10-year-old, 11, 12-year-old age
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:period, I also started to gain weight
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:When I reflect back, I used to
sneak a lot of food because I was
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:using food to cope with stress.
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:And so between withdrawing from society
and trying to become invisible, eating
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:my feelings, my weight gain increased,
which then increased the bullying and
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:the teasing and the exclusion, which
then fueled this cycle of pulling
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:back even more and eating even more.
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:That it actually at that very young age,
created not only self-esteem and poor
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:body image issues, but at the beginnings
of an eating disorder, a binge eating
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:disorder, which later turned into bulimia.
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:And, here's the thing, even with
all of this on board, there was
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:still a strong undercurrent of
creativity that existed within me.
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:I was lucky enough that from an
educational perspective, my parents
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:allowed me to take some multimedia
subjects, which opened the door for
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:me to filmmaking, to digital audio
production, to creating my own films,
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:but because I had these self-esteem
issues still on board, I made sure I
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:executed this from behind the camera.
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:Instead of being the one
performing or dancing.
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:It felt much safer for me to explore
my creativity from behind the lens.
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:Always directing, always producing,
always writing, but never performing.
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:It didn't feel safe to perform
anymore, and as my self-esteem
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:issues and my body dysmorphia, grew
into bulimia and really struggling
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:My need to step back further and
further progressed that eventually even,
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:although I went on to study multimedia
and filmmaking and I worked in film
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:and television for quite a number
of years, this feeling of not being
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:worthy, of not wanting to be seen, of
not being good enough overtook that,
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:that I stepped away from it completely.
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:And it actually took me a really long time
and a number of careers, which I described
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:in the earlier episode to find my way back
to opening the doors of creativity again.
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:And there was a lot of trauma
and conditioning and beliefs that
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:I had to decode along the way.
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:There was one point where I'd convinced
myself that I wasn't creative.
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:And I just, I just wasn't creative.
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:I'd lost my ability to paint.
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:I'd lost my ability to write.
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:I wasn't even journaling at the time,
like I couldn't even pick up a pen.
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:There was such worthlessness and such
devaluing that had happened in my mind
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:about my value in who I was that had
really put up this incredible block
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:between myself and my creativity, and
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:And so I spent most of my career
moving in and out of different science
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:or math or strategic based careers.
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:Until the COVID pandemic hit, and this
was really interesting because I had
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:been suppressing this creative side
of me for decades, by this point, I
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:had gone through significant health
challenges based on all of the damage
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:that I had done with my eating disorders.
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:I was even misdiagnosed as bipolar
there by a medical professional at one
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:point and popped on a whole bunch of
different bipolar regulating medication.
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:I was basically sedated, for a
significant period of my life
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:But it wasn't until the pandemic
that I really decided to dig
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:in and start to change my life.
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:I decided to take my life back to take
control of how I was feeling and the
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:conditioning that was making me feel
and think and act in these certain
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:ways, and to start to excavate and
uncover who it was that I really was.
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:And so with a brave leap of faith,
I decided to get off my medication.
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:Of course, I was medically supported
in that decision to start to tap into
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:my spirituality and my nature as a
psychic medium, as a channeler I started
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:to reawaken the gifts that I'd always
had, starting with kinesiology and EFT
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:tapping to really strip back all of
these layers and these masks of the
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:person that I had become to uncover
who it was that I truly was underneath.
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:And through this I realized two
very, very important things.
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:One is that I, I had this deep desire
to be in service to others, and
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:that was really evident in a lot of
the career changes that I had made.
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:Every time I got overwhelmed in
my marketing and sales career,
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:I would always go and retrain in
something that was in service,
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:Whether it was in nursing or whether
it was in teaching, I would always find
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:myself gravitating to doing something
that was in service, and I knew deep
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:down, once I'd stripped back a lot of
this conditioning and the shoulds and the
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:expectations that I'd placed on myself,
that making my life be more than just
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:making money for others, or climbing the
corporate ladder to do something that was
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:actually meaningful and enabled me to get
to the end of my life and look back and
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:be like, I lived a life that was not only
in service of others, but was meaningful
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:and purposeful, and made a difference.
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:And the second thing that started to
reveal itself very, very quickly was
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:that I wanted to reignite and reconnect
with my creativity and my creative
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:side, that side of me that had been
there since I was a little girl, but
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:got suppressed and compressed under
trauma and under expectation of what
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:was good and what was successful.
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:When I started to realize these two
things, I was in a massive transitional
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:period in my life where I was stepping
out of a relationship that was no
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:longer in the highest of my health
and in the highest of my good.
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:I had had the beautiful opportunity to
be a stepmom to a beautiful little boy.
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:And stepping away from that relationship
meant leaving him behind and taking
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:off that hat that I'd worn for
almost a decade as a stepmom and
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:putting it to the side, and no longer
having that relationship anymore.
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:It was such tumultuous time of who am I
if I'm not a stepmother, if I'm not in
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:this relationship, or wanting to have the
life that I had just fixated on building
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:for such a long time, who am I and
where am I and what am I gonna do next?
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:And as I transitioned outta that
relationship, I had to sell the
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:home that I had worked so hard to
build and move into my own place.
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:I changed careers at the same time.
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:I transitioned from one corporate
organization into another because I just
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:needed to clean slate on all levels.
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:And soon after all of this
transitional period into this new
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:career and this new place, COVID hit.
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:And that changed everything in that
it really slowed everything down.
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:I was fortunate in that my
work was able to continue.
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:But like all of us, everything
else, all of the distractions, all
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:the extracurricular stuff stopped.
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:I had all of this time to really
reflect on who am I, where
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:am I, and what do I wanna do.
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:I started to paint, I started to
draw, and this amazing idea, which
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:I'd never had up until this point
to create a podcast popped into my
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:mind, but I wanted it not to just be
a podcast for the sake of a podcast.
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:I wanted it to be meaningful.
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:And I had been doing a lot of
reading at the time around racism and
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:systemic privilege I thought, I know.
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:I'm gonna create a podcast that
invites voices of people of color
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:onto the podcast to open up channels
of communication around where we're
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:actually getting it wrong and what we
could actually do differently to start
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:to address some of these problems.
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:I created the very first live stream
podcast with a video feed into Facebook,
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:for a show called Life In Contradiction.
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:And each week I would live stream an
episode with a guest who would come on and
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:talk about their experiences with racism.
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:And starting to hold the
conversation of what could change.
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:And this project, honestly,
it changed my life.
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:There was something about holding space
for difficult conversations that really
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:fueled me and I realized that I loved,
creating space for stories to be told.
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:For asking hard questions for people.
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:Really challenging my point of view.
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:I I realized very quickly that
creating these kinds of platforms
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:and spaces and conversations
was what I really wanted to do.
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:And whilst Life In Contradiction only
had one season, and it was mainly ended
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:because I ended up in a major health
crisis that resulted in some major
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:surgery, That feeling never left me.
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:The surgery that I had to have
was actually a hysterectomy.
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:And it had taken me on this pathway
of one minute I am a woman with
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:all of the complete body parts, to
having to swallow the fact that the
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:body parts and the things that made
up a woman and a mother were no
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:longer going to be there and dealing
with the emotional fallout of that.
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:And I had already, as I'd mentioned,
been on such tumultuous journey with
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:my body to realize that we don't talk
about the journeys of our bodies a lot.
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:And all of a sudden I'm laid up on
the couch in this recovery period.
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:Why don't I create a podcast that
creates space for women to come
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:on and talk about the journeys
that they have with their bodies?
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:Everything, the good, the
bad, the hard, the unspoken,
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:and so Body Diaries was born.
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:And I set about reaching out to women
right across the world to see if there
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:was anyone who had had a journey with
their body that they wanted to come
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:and share and talk about, the things
that that helped them get through.
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:That was an incredible podcast.
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:We had so many different women talk, about
all sorts of journeys, everything from
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:escaping domestic violence and alcoholism
to overcoming eating disorders and even
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:managing and living with adult ADHD.
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:It was a beautiful podcast and don't
worry, that podcast is still around.
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:It is gonna be back in its
second season very soon.
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:But it took me on this journey
of realizing that stories matter.
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:And the most interesting thing about
Body Diaries is that it started to
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:awaken in me this desire to start
stepping into being seen again.
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:It was amazing how using your voice
and telling stories, being brave enough
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:to finally tell those stories into a
microphone just chips away another layer
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:of fear that we put on ourselves, about
speaking up, And it opened the door of
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:this curiosity that I had about, well,
what if I was to explore being seen?
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:And performing and being on stages,
and so soon after Body Diaries
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:launched, I became very curious
about taking some improv classes.
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:And improv led to acting, led back to
improv, led back to more performance.
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:And before I knew it, I had overcome
this fear of being seen by putting
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:myself out there, by starting to
allow the world to see me on stages.
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:I got better at showing up on social
media, on video, and sharing my thoughts
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:and feelings that soon I realized I
wanted to do more than just have podcasts.
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:I was ready to not be hiding behind the
microphone or behind the camera anymore.
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:Part of my journey and part of my
destiny is to be seen, is to share, is
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:to be on stages and is to be on screens.
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:I wanted to share this because what
can feel as a fear and as hiding can
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:transform into something incredible and
beyond even more than what you think.
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:If you had have told me that one day
I would be declaring to the world that
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:I wanted to have my own show and be a
host back when I was stuck in the eating
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:disorder in the dysmorphia, in the feeling
of not being good enough and hating being
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:in my body, I would've called you crazy.
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:I would've said, no way.
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:Like, I don't need, I can't see that.
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:I can't feel that.
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:That just feels impossible, and it is
absolutely categorically not what I want.
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:Because at the time, I was in
that frequency of hiding, of being
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:contracted, and allowing my fears
to rule the frequency that I was in.
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:Whereas now through the journey
of all of the healing that
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:I've done, it feels possible.
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:but not just possible.
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:It feels desirable.
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:And so if you've got a project that you
wanna start At whatever level that you're
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:at right now, if it's just speaking
to a microphone, if it's showing up
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:on camera, if it's writing a book and
putting everything into the words right
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:now, because you're not ready to be seen.
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:Do it, embrace it because it will
open the door to the healings that
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:are needed for you to then step into
the full potential of who you are.
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:That next chapter, that next
level of expression of creativity.
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:Because within you, no matter how
suppressed it is, no matter when it
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:got shaken out of you, creativity
and expression exists and it lives.
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:It's just waiting for you to find
the channels to open the door to
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:let the light in enough for it to be
stirred up and vibrated and poured
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:out to then lead to the next thing
and the next thing and the next thing.
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:I'm personally really excited to see
where this chapter flows for me, and I can
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:guarantee you that wherever I end up in
the next 12 months, 24 months, five years,
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:10 years, it is gonna be even further and
even bigger than what I can see right now
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:But what I promise and commit to myself
to doing is to continue to dream.
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:To continue to hold visions and ideas
of expansion for myself, because every
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:step I take allows just that little bit
more creativity and expansion in which
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:then can catapult us to destinations
even beyond our wildest dreams.
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:So if you have been looking for
a reinforcement to go and do that
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:thing, take that first step or
even the 50th step further into
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:your creativity and expression.
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:Here it is.
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:And of course I wanna hear all about it.
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:I wanna hear about the dream.
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:I wanna hear about the steps and
the progressions and the bold moves.
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:So please reach out to me,
send me a dm, send me an email.
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:I wanna celebrate you because taking
those steps is really bold and it
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:takes so much courage to keep going
and to not let the fear overtake you.
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:So the more I can celebrate you
to put more energy and excitement
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:behind you to keep flying forward,
that makes me so happy, and it is
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:something that I would just love
to be able to do in service of you.
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:And I cannot wait to see
you in the next episode.
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:As always, thank you for being here.
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